I am a little confused. What I know is that Bill had a standard 450SE/SEL, but nothing much was ever heard about that car during the course of Bill's membership on TK. Additionally, he also had an immaculate Astral Silver 6.9 with new black Seat Covers that Bill himself fitted to the car - I actually supplied him with those the Seat Covers that came from the States. I have reason to believe that this car was advertised for sale not all that long ago, with quite a substantial asking price. Surely, that's not the car that is subject of this thread. Therefore, the one mentioned herein - is that an additional 6.9 that was owned by Bill ? Maybe Motec has the answers to this. Regards Styria